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Why is this Very-High level?  It seems High to me.-[[Special:Contributions/173.242.124.71|173.242.124.71]] 20:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 
Why is this Very-High level?  It seems High to me.-[[Special:Contributions/173.242.124.71|173.242.124.71]] 20:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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:It's better than Still Spell and Silent Spell combined, almost all of the time. You can't be stopped from casting in a grapple unless you're also unable to speak. --[[User:Foxwarrior|Foxwarrior]] ([[User talk:Foxwarrior|talk]]) 20:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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::So?  That doesn't seem like enough to make it very high level.  It makes it a bit more difficult to prevent you from casting, but no caster in a very high level game is going to let themselves get into those situations anyway.  I can see its use for stealth, but that benefit seems high level at best.
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:::''Silence''? ''Black tentacles''? Stealth can be pretty important at the balance point where a surprise round often means victory, you know. --[[User:Foxwarrior|Foxwarrior]] ([[User talk:Foxwarrior|talk]]) 22:33, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Why is this Very-High level? It seems High to me.-173.242.124.71 20:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

It's better than Still Spell and Silent Spell combined, almost all of the time. You can't be stopped from casting in a grapple unless you're also unable to speak. --Foxwarrior (talk) 20:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
So? That doesn't seem like enough to make it very high level. It makes it a bit more difficult to prevent you from casting, but no caster in a very high level game is going to let themselves get into those situations anyway. I can see its use for stealth, but that benefit seems high level at best.
Silence? Black tentacles? Stealth can be pretty important at the balance point where a surprise round often means victory, you know. --Foxwarrior (talk) 22:33, 21 November 2012 (UTC)