Talk:Hinder (3.5e Spell)

Over-Levelled

This is a 1st level spell, and even that's being a bit generous. - MisterSinister 09:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Almost certainly as a VH spell, but since it was designed as an inverted Aid I didn't feel like re-leveling it as much as matching it to existing. It can be dropped to whatever level Aid is in any given game pretty easily. That said, do you think the duration should go back to minutes per level? - Tarkisflux ^Talk 14:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why not. --Foxwarrior 16:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

DS is a bit stronger a debuff than temp hit points are a buff, but since its form here requires someone to also be beating on the target I'm happy to make it last longer. So duration boosted, and balance dropped (because it's was a pretty Moderate level thing in the first place). - Tarkisflux ^Talk 18:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I gave Aid a true level of 1, because frankly, that's where it belongs. Additionally, all this madness about spells having balance points is straight-up weird, because none have been defined for them, and the idea that spells are balanced to anything but themselves is strange regardless - it's almost akin to saying this for class abilities, or skills, or something similar. A spell either competes with options at its level, or doesn't - and if it doesn't, the spell is underpowered, not at a different balance point. - MisterSinister 21:35, 2 July 2012 (UTC)