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Is this more accetable to the opponents of [[Unnatural Opportunist (3.5e Feat)]]?--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 01:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC) | Is this more accetable to the opponents of [[Unnatural Opportunist (3.5e Feat)]]?--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 01:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :This is basically Pathfinder Orc's Ferocity (and therefore it is win). I approve of this feat. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 05:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::[[SRD:Psionic Revivify|Psionic Revivify]] and [[SRD:Diehard|Diehard]]. Note this feat happens ''after'' the effect that kills you. It would eat up exp, but you'd never die until you run out of PP. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 17:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :::And I'm ok with this. Also, orc clerics, cast heal as your dying action, profit. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 19:16, 28 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::::From what I can see, you cannot actually heal yourself as your final option unless you go with Psionic Revivify or Revivify (arcane), as Aarnott said. I can see a body Word of Recalling itself to a safe place with this. I would argue that it's power if effectively rogue level, since you can do plot important things with it. "The NPC had this feat, and used its final action to plane shift into the negative energy plane." or something like that. --[[User:Havvy|Havvy]] 03:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :::::@Aarnott- Diehard not needed. this feat says you automatically get the effect off, regardless of consiousness. It is simply "about to die, action, blarg."--Change=Chaos. Period. [[User:Spazalicious Chaos| SC]] 03:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::::::Diehard is needed to stay conscious after a Revivify. It takes you to -1 hp. Of course, a good [[SRD:Autohypnosis|Autohypnosis]] check can substitute for the feat. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 15:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :::::::Eiji, the way it's written it looks like you 1)suffer full consequences of triggering event, which means that you 2)die, and gain the "dead" condition ''before'' you can 3) take one final action afterwards. So anything that doesn't fix the dead condition isn't going to extend your life span, just maybe leave you with a pretty corpse. If I was too low level for revivify, I'd go with [[SRD:Gentle Repose|Gentle Repose]] out of politeness; don't want my friends carrying around a smelly corpse looking to get me raised. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 00:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Is this more accetable to the opponents of Unnatural Opportunist (3.5e Feat)?--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 01:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- This is basically Pathfinder Orc's Ferocity (and therefore it is win). I approve of this feat. -- Eiji-kun 05:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Psionic Revivify and Diehard. Note this feat happens after the effect that kills you. It would eat up exp, but you'd never die until you run out of PP. --Aarnott 17:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- And I'm ok with this. Also, orc clerics, cast heal as your dying action, profit. -- Eiji-kun 19:16, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- From what I can see, you cannot actually heal yourself as your final option unless you go with Psionic Revivify or Revivify (arcane), as Aarnott said. I can see a body Word of Recalling itself to a safe place with this. I would argue that it's power if effectively rogue level, since you can do plot important things with it. "The NPC had this feat, and used its final action to plane shift into the negative energy plane." or something like that. --Havvy 03:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- @Aarnott- Diehard not needed. this feat says you automatically get the effect off, regardless of consiousness. It is simply "about to die, action, blarg."--Change=Chaos. Period. SC 03:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Diehard is needed to stay conscious after a Revivify. It takes you to -1 hp. Of course, a good Autohypnosis check can substitute for the feat. --Aarnott 15:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Eiji, the way it's written it looks like you 1)suffer full consequences of triggering event, which means that you 2)die, and gain the "dead" condition before you can 3) take one final action afterwards. So anything that doesn't fix the dead condition isn't going to extend your life span, just maybe leave you with a pretty corpse. If I was too low level for revivify, I'd go with Gentle Repose out of politeness; don't want my friends carrying around a smelly corpse looking to get me raised. - Tarkisflux Talk 00:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)