Talk:Arcane Lord (3.5e Prestige Class)

So...

I don't think it's a mystery I'd like to earn that "Contributor" moniker. Anything you'd have me do? -SecondDeath777 19:47, 4 March 2018

Well you made the original feat, but if you feel like doing something I need ideas for the capstone and Pneultimate Discoveries. --Leziad (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2018 (MST)

Capstone? -SecondDeath777 20:50, 4 March 2018

Primal Secret. The Ultimate ability if you wish. --Leziad (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2018 (MST)

I figured. Huh. If you've already named it, do you know what direction it should take? -SecondDeath777 4 March 2018

Similarity

This is very similar to my True Arcanist class. -- LRimus (talk) 15:52, 5 March 2018 (MST)

On a second glance it's OP, and don't have a main theme to it. It's like a bunch of random good stuff. It's good, but lacks in purpose... -- LRimus (talk) 16:36, 5 March 2018 (MST)

Bro have you ever seen a wizard? It a bunch of random crap. If anything it meant to be similar to the archmage, which is similarly 'random'. Also since it in construction a lot of the fluff on the 'lordship' is missing, which is essentially a ritual that bind your lifeforce with magic. This is why they become immortal and start radiating magic by themselves. --Leziad (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2018 (MST)

There's really nothing OP about this class. Surgo (talk) 17:25, 5 March 2018 (MST)

Immortality alone is OP. Not to mention it's with all this good stuff, without any drowbacks, restrictions, conditions and such? And it's not even Epic class too. It's OP all over. And what's more it's 5 level PrC. It would be less of an impact if it was 10 lvl PrC. -- LRimus (talk) 17:37, 5 March 2018 (MST)

Immortality is handled like a really cheap beer in a bar by the time you hit level 15. Nevermind after that. Do you see any features as particularly OP? I can fix thing, but I am in general against the idea of this being an epic class. --Leziad (talk) 17:43, 5 March 2018 (MST)

How on earth is immortality OP? It literally does not come up in gameplay at all. Immortality is a flavor ability. Surgo (talk) 18:52, 5 March 2018 (MST)

This class is fine, if people are not branching out into spellcaster PrC's by level 15-16 then they aren't playing a spellcaster properly. Those other spellcaster PrC's should be the primary benchmark against which this class is compared, specifically things like the incantatrix. This isn't any more or less broken than that given the levels at which they are respectively accessible. It's just more goodies, which is fine since the wizard generally doesn't need any help boning anything it comes across.

I am somewhat sympathetic to the criticism that this doesn't have a particularly central theme (aside from what seems to be "MOAR MAGICK!!") but I really don't consider that a big deal as it has no relation to the mechanics of the class. Fluff is all subjectivity. - TG Cid (talk) 10:32, 6 March 2018 (MST)

Well it kind of a remake of the Archmage, which is exactly that, more magic. I don't think everything need a central theme, like rockshaping mage. Still if that isa porblem more people echoes I will make a change. --Leziad (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2018 (MST)

For argument's sake, Archmage does have a theme. That is in-depth study of arcane secrets, and adds only those - magic manipulation skills. -- LRimus (talk) 15:04, 6 March 2018 (MST)

Don't really see it. The in-depth secrets it find are pretty unrelated to each other. Ohhh I can now use spell-like abilities... look my fireball part halfway and a avoid my allies... I can fire a blast of magic. The same could be said for the Arcane Lord. --Leziad (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2018 (MST)