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::::::::Meaningless calculation steps? Uh... It's those two steps that make Concentration DCs from this maneuver so huge, especially the movement-related DC increase. It's really not that hard. The base DC is 10 + 5 (5th-level maneuver) + your initiator level + your Int modifier. Then you increase the DC by 1 for every 10 feet you move, and after that, you increase the DC by 1 for every attack of opportunity that was made against you. I really don't see how that's supposed to be hard to deal with... well, okay, it's hard to deal with if you're the one stuck making the Concentration checks, but that's the entire point. And about the movement speed boost? This maneuver multiplies your movement speed by a factor of 1 less than [[SRD:Run|running]] does, for the same action cost. Think of it that way, and it's much easier to remember. (I don't think I can get away with putting it that simply in the maneuver description, but that's ''really'' all there is to it as far as your movement speed goes.) --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 06:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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::::::Yes, I had a reading fail with Fluffykittens' comments it seems, sorry about that. The point about provoking stands though; allies normally just don't take them. But there's nothing stopping them from making unarmed attacks at you with their feet (which would miss) when you provoke them while using this ability, and they are encouraged to do so if they have AoOs to spare. Potential friendly DC stacking abuse aside, I don't think the DC boosted based on distance and AoOs triggered is worth the extra calculation steps. Just raise the base DC by 10 (3 per 30 base move, times 3, plus 1 for an AoO) or more and lose a paragraph or two. If you want to keep the "go provoke" aspect of the maneuver, you could drop the radius and have the penalty only apply to those targets that you provoke AoOs from. Then you still have large moves and you still want to go make people swing at you while you're using this, but you don't make your friends hate you and you don't have extra (and largely meaningless) calculation steps. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 05:51, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
