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== Ratings ==
 
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|rater=Foxwarrior
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|reason=If you're afraid of having your friends complain that it's too strong, well, this time they would almost certainly be wrong.
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The racial traits section could be shorter, and the description sections could be longer.
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I'm curious as to how a race with the gender balance of a pride of lions ends up being matriarchal.
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|rater=Aarnott
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|reason=I don't remember what it was like before, but I feel that it is too weak now. Four arms is always a tricky business. It merits the LA + 1, but the other abilities would have been fine with LA +0. I think it's a bit low-powered for a LA+1, but a bit high-powered for a LA+0.
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The fluff/roleplaying abilities are decent.
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The description could be more fleshed out.
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|rater=Havvy
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|rating=like
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|reason=The abilities are fine for an LA+1 race, though level adjustment isn't fun. The abilities are flavorful, and actually makes you feel like you are playing a psionic. I actually read the descriptions for once, and well, they gave me questions about why that it. Now that the balance around abilities has been reached, it'd be nice to see the lore expanded upon.
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|reason=Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
 
|reason=Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
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{{Rating |rater=Ghostwheel
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|reason=Oh look. Another almost-human-but-not-quite race. Forehead alien much? (Blue skin and pointed ears, ooooh.)
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|reason=Seems fine, the teleportation thing is interesting, but the flavor doesn't really draw me into the race.
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Also, giving a +0 LA race telepathy and (even a short-range) teleport abilities is bad.
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{{Rating |rater=ThunderGod Cid
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|reason=Even though this appears to be a different version that my compatriots rated, this is a dangerous mix right here. Yes, it has penalties. And debilitating ones, at that; being dazed pretty much whenever you're around someone of significant Intelligence is just silly, because then your party wizard is going to be giving you migraines 24/7. So unless you surround yourself with a party of retards, that's not going to fly.
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|reason=From the ashes, it rises again. And honestly... I'm proud of you. Seriously.  It's good now. Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound. The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status.  Good job.
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Second, ''calm emotions'' ends encounters. Giving it as an SLA or whatever useable at will is ridiculous.  
 
 
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|reason=From the ashes, it rises again. And honestly... I'm proud of you.  Seriously.  It's good now. Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound. The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status. Good job.
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|reason=Pretty much like Eiji, the dead links are a bit annoying though.
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|reason=Much better than before a 1LA creature with four arms is good. You also add some fluff. I was about to like it, then saw that they get access to dimension door at 5HD. Even a psion has to wait until 7th level to gain access to it.
 
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{{Rating |rater=Leziad
 
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|reason=Outsider is not a subtype, perception is not a skill, telepathy don't work that way, you die no save if you remain in mountainous region for too long, emphatic aura is broke, fluff is barebone.
 
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The spell-like ability ALONE make me hate this, the other flaws don't help at all. Teleport and HEAL should never be handed at 1st level, ESPECIALLY the former... and it usable at-will.
 
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Overall the race is overpowered for it LA, yet most of it racial traits are broken and the wording is terrible on all count. 
 
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}}==Teleport AT WIll?==
 
  
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==Teleport at will?==
 
For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 
For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
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:Since it's improved so, I put on OldRating markers since it IS pretty different now. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 12:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
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::Yeah, it's a +1 now. [[User:Halian|Halian]] ([[User talk:Halian|talk]]) 03:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:17, 13 May 2019

Ratings[edit]

RatedLike.png Foxwarrior likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
If you're afraid of having your friends complain that it's too strong, well, this time they would almost certainly be wrong.

The racial traits section could be shorter, and the description sections could be longer.

I'm curious as to how a race with the gender balance of a pride of lions ends up being matriarchal.

RatedNeutral.png Aarnott is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
I don't remember what it was like before, but I feel that it is too weak now. Four arms is always a tricky business. It merits the LA + 1, but the other abilities would have been fine with LA +0. I think it's a bit low-powered for a LA+1, but a bit high-powered for a LA+0.

The fluff/roleplaying abilities are decent.

The description could be more fleshed out.

RatedLike.png Havvy likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
The abilities are fine for an LA+1 race, though level adjustment isn't fun. The abilities are flavorful, and actually makes you feel like you are playing a psionic. I actually read the descriptions for once, and well, they gave me questions about why that it. Now that the balance around abilities has been reached, it'd be nice to see the lore expanded upon.
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Rating 		DeeNoir is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
This rating refers to a substantially different version of the article, or concerns mentioned in it have already been addressed.
Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
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Rating 		Ghostwheel is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
This rating refers to a substantially different version of the article, or concerns mentioned in it have already been addressed.
Seems fine, the teleportation thing is interesting, but the flavor doesn't really draw me into the race.
RatedLike.png Eiji-kun likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
From the ashes, it rises again. And honestly... I'm proud of you. Seriously. It's good now. Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound. The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status. Good job.
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Rating 		Leziad likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
This rating refers to a substantially different version of the article, or concerns mentioned in it have already been addressed.
Pretty much like Eiji, the dead links are a bit annoying though.
RatedDislike.png Franken Kesey dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
Much better than before a 1LA creature with four arms is good. You also add some fluff. I was about to like it, then saw that they get access to dimension door at 5HD. Even a psion has to wait until 7th level to gain access to it.


Teleport at will?[edit]

For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --Leziad 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Since it's improved so, I put on OldRating markers since it IS pretty different now. -- Eiji-kun 12:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a +1 now. Halian (talk) 03:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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