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== Ratings ==
 
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|reason=If you're afraid of having your friends complain that it's too strong, well, instantly getting the third round of Detect Thoughts might be a bit on the extreme side, in tense potentially pre-combat situations. This should probably be compared to [[SRD:Elves, Gray (Race)|Gray Elves]]. The thing you did with the extra arms is remarkably sane, I think; I wonder how it works with gloves and rings.
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|reason=If you're afraid of having your friends complain that it's too strong, well, this time they would almost certainly be wrong.
  
 
The racial traits section could be shorter, and the description sections could be longer.
 
The racial traits section could be shorter, and the description sections could be longer.
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I'm curious as to how a race with the gender balance of a pride of lions ends up being matriarchal.
 
I'm curious as to how a race with the gender balance of a pride of lions ends up being matriarchal.
 
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{{Rating |rater=ThunderGod Cid
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|reason=I don't remember what it was like before, but I feel that it is too weak now. Four arms is always a tricky business. It merits the LA + 1, but the other abilities would have been fine with LA +0. I think it's a bit low-powered for a LA+1, but a bit high-powered for a LA+0.
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|reason=tl;dr: The powers are OK, I just want to see the excess trimmed.
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I don't agree with having all of the ability score bonuses on top of all the powers; I think dumping one in favor of the other (read: the powers should be kept at the expense of all the ability score changes, positive or negative). I also think the constant empathy still has a pretty good chance to shaft you (if your enemy has a bag of awakened rats, as it were), especially if you have to make a separate save for each suitably intelligent creature that dies, even in the same turn.  
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The fluff/roleplaying abilities are decent.
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The description could be more fleshed out.
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|reason=Looks like a great race to play out of the box. I like the fact that it offers out of combat abilities that won't break the game, but will certainly offer something new that other races don't.
 
 
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|reason=The abilities are fine for an LA+1 race, though level adjustment isn't fun. The abilities are flavorful, and actually makes you feel like you are playing a psionic. I actually read the descriptions for once, and well, they gave me questions about why that it. Now that the balance around abilities has been reached, it'd be nice to see the lore expanded upon.
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|reason=A nice race that is neither overpowered nor underpowered with a psionic twist and some story hooks.
 
 
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|reason=Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
 
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|reason=Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
 
 
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|reason=Seems fine, the teleportation thing is interesting, but the flavor doesn't really draw me into the race.
 
|reason=Seems fine, the teleportation thing is interesting, but the flavor doesn't really draw me into the race.
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|reason=From the ashes, it rises again.  And honestly... I'm proud of you.  Seriously.  It's good now.  Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound.  The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status.  Good job.
 
|reason=From the ashes, it rises again.  And honestly... I'm proud of you.  Seriously.  It's good now.  Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound.  The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status.  Good job.
 
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|reason=Pretty much like Eiji, the dead links are a bit annoying though.
 
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|reason=Pretty much like Eiji, the dead links are a bit annoying though.
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|reason=Much better than before a 1LA creature with four arms is good. You also add some fluff. I was about to like it, then saw that they get access to dimension door at 5HD. Even a psion has to wait until 7th level to gain access to it.
 
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==Teleport at will?==
 
==Teleport at will?==
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For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 
For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --[[User:Leziad|Leziad]] 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
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:Since it's improved so, I put on OldRating markers since it IS pretty different now. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 12:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 
:Since it's improved so, I put on OldRating markers since it IS pretty different now. -- [[User:Eiji-kun|Eiji-kun]] 12:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
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::Yeah, it's a +1 now. [[User:Halian|Halian]] ([[User talk:Halian|talk]]) 03:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:17, 13 May 2019

Ratings[edit]

RatedLike.png Foxwarrior likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
If you're afraid of having your friends complain that it's too strong, well, this time they would almost certainly be wrong.

The racial traits section could be shorter, and the description sections could be longer.

I'm curious as to how a race with the gender balance of a pride of lions ends up being matriarchal.

RatedNeutral.png Aarnott is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
I don't remember what it was like before, but I feel that it is too weak now. Four arms is always a tricky business. It merits the LA + 1, but the other abilities would have been fine with LA +0. I think it's a bit low-powered for a LA+1, but a bit high-powered for a LA+0.

The fluff/roleplaying abilities are decent.

The description could be more fleshed out.

RatedLike.png Havvy likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
The abilities are fine for an LA+1 race, though level adjustment isn't fun. The abilities are flavorful, and actually makes you feel like you are playing a psionic. I actually read the descriptions for once, and well, they gave me questions about why that it. Now that the balance around abilities has been reached, it'd be nice to see the lore expanded upon.
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Rating 		DeeNoir is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
This rating refers to a substantially different version of the article, or concerns mentioned in it have already been addressed.
Might still need work, and seems to be a first time attempt at creating a race.
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Rating 		Ghostwheel is neutral on this article and rated it 2 of 4.
This rating refers to a substantially different version of the article, or concerns mentioned in it have already been addressed.
Seems fine, the teleportation thing is interesting, but the flavor doesn't really draw me into the race.
RatedLike.png Eiji-kun likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
From the ashes, it rises again. And honestly... I'm proud of you. Seriously. It's good now. Well, it needs some fluff text, but mechanically it is now sound. The fact it went from BIG NO to "hey not bad" brings it to Like status. Good job.
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Rating 		Leziad likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
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Pretty much like Eiji, the dead links are a bit annoying though.
RatedDislike.png Franken Kesey dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
Much better than before a 1LA creature with four arms is good. You also add some fluff. I was about to like it, then saw that they get access to dimension door at 5HD. Even a psion has to wait until 7th level to gain access to it.


Teleport at will?[edit]

For a LA 0 race? Really? Really? --Leziad 10:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Since it's improved so, I put on OldRating markers since it IS pretty different now. -- Eiji-kun 12:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a +1 now. Halian (talk) 03:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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