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==Obsession III: Balance Analysis==
 
==Obsession III: Balance Analysis==
  
1st 15 4 = 4 ability 11 9
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{| class="d20" style="text-align: left;" {{#vardefine: odd|0}}
2nd 16 6 = "" + 1 level + 1 magic 10 8
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! Level || Standard Defense || Typical Attack Bonus || From Ability || From Level || From Magic || Roll to Hit
3rd 17 6 = "" 11 9
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
4th 18 7 = "" + 2 level 11 9
+
| 1st || 13 || +5 || +4 || +0 || +1 || 8 or more
5th 19 7 = "" 12 10
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
6th 20 8 = + 3 level 12 10
+
| 2st || 14 || +6 || "" || +1 || "" || 8
7th 21 9 = "" + 2 magic 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
8th 22 11 = 5 ability + 4 level 11 9
+
| 3rd || 15 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 9
9th 23 11 = "" 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
10th 24 12 = "" + 5 level 12 10
+
| 4th || 16 || +7 || "" || +2 || "" || 9
11th 25 13 = "" + 1 expert 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
12th 26 15 = "" + 6 level + 3 magic 11 9
+
| 5th || 17 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 10
13th 27 15 = "" 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
14th 28 17 = "" + 6 ability + 7 level 11 9
+
| 6th || 18 || +9 || "" || +3 || +2 || 9
15th 29 17 = "" 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
16th 30 18 = "" + 8 level 12 10
+
| 7th || 19 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 10
17th 31 19 = "" + 4 magic 12 10
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
18th 32 20 = "" + 9 level 12 10
+
| 8th || 20 || +11 || +5 || +4 || "" || 9
19th 33 20 = "" 13 11
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
20th 34 21 = "" + 10 level 13 11
+
| 9th || 21 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 10
21st 35 22 = "" + 7 ability 13 11
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
22nd 36 24 = "" + 11 level + 5 magic 12 10
+
| 10th || 22 || +12 || "" || +5 || "" || 10
23rd 37 24 = "" 13 11
+
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
24th 38 25 = "" + 12 level 14 12
+
| 11th || 23 || +13 || "" || "" || +3 || 10
25th 39 25 = "" 14 12
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
26th 40 26 = "" + 13 level 14 12
+
| 12th || 24 || +14 || "" || +6 || "" || 10
27th 41 27 = "" + 6 magic 14 12
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
28th 42 29 = "" + 8 ability + 14 level 13 11
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| 13th || 25 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 11
29th 43 29 = "" 14 12
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
30th 44 30 = "" + 15 level 14 12
+
| 14th || 26 || +16 || +6 || +7 || "" || 10
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 15th || 27 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 11
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 16th || 28 || +18 || "" || +8 || +4 || 10
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 17th || 29 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 11
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 18th || 30 || +19 || "" || +9 || "" || 11
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 19th || 31 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 20th || 32 || +20 || "" || +10 || "" || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
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| 21th || 33 || +22 || +7 || "" || +5 || 11
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 22th || 34 || +23 || "" || +11 || "" || 11
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 23th || 35 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 24th || 36 || +24 || "" || +12 || "" || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 25th || 37 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 13
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 26th || 38 || +26 || "" || +13 || +6 || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 27th || 39 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 13
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 28th || 40 || +28 || +8 || +14 || "" || 12
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 29th || 41 || "" || "" || "" || "" || 13
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| 30th || 42 || +29 || "" || +15 || "" || 13
 +
<!-- repeat as needed -->
 +
|}
  
factor in proficiency bonus (typical +2) and attacks against non-AC defenses.
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'''Note:''' the Standard Defense indicates the level apropriate AC minus weapon proficiency bonus (typical +2) and non-AC defenses as suggested in the DMG. I'll look into ''actual'' monster statistics as well, to make sure this is practical.
make expertise a Paragon Feat
 
Maybe the hike in difficulty is simply to be expected, otherwise, it might need to be forstalled. Possible new feat:
 
  
Epic Implement/Weapon Expertise
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I have included neither class features, nor sundry items' and powers' effects above. I'll try to get to them later on in the article. Feel free to submit anything I've missed as the point of the analysis is definitely accuracy.
You gain a +2 bonus to attacks with the chosen implement or weapon. This does not stack with implement/weapon expertise.
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As you can see, the necessary roll to hit (given the factors included in this analysis) gradually increases from 1st to 30th levels. This hike in difficulty might be simply expected, otherwise, it might need to be forstalled. This gives us two approaches to game balance: gradual curve and linear progression.
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{| class="d20" style="text-align: left;" {{#vardefine: odd|0}}
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! Source || Bonus per Level || Bonus per Tier || Overall per Tier
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
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| Ability || Complex || +1 <sup>1/2</sup> || style="text-align: center;" rowspan="3"|8 <sup>1/2</sup>
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| Level || 1 per 2 || +5
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| Magic || 1 per 5 || +2 
 +
<!-- repeat as needed -->
 +
|}
 +
 
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One factor that I didn't include above was the Expertise feats, which are Heroic tier. In my personal opinion, no one should go without them. At the same time, if they're taken right away, it makes hitting your target absurdly easy in the early levels, then things start getting harder from there, which is consistent with the gradual curve approach. If the linear progression is preferred, I suggest that Implement/Weapon Expertise be made a Paragon Feat instead and be rewritten as follows:
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Implement/Weapon Expertise
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You gain a +1 bonus to attacks with the chosen implement or weapon for each 10 levels above 1st.
 
Special: This feat may be taken multiple times, each time applying to a different implement or weapon.
 
Special: This feat may be taken multiple times, each time applying to a different implement or weapon.
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Even with these changes the equation is still slightly non-linear. The irregularity comes from the ability score increases. They make the mistake, if I may be so bold, of clinging half-way to tradition while introducing the new tier system. They should have thrown out the old way and evened it out, if linear progression was their goal (which is an open quesiton).
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The solution: grant ability increases every 3rd level into the tier (3rd, 6th, 9th, then 13th, 16th, 19th, etc.) as well as the usual welcoming bonus at 11th and 21st. This way, the (possible) increase to any one ability score will be 4 points per 10 levels (in agregate), for a +2 bonus increase to dependent rolls. The ultimate results are as follows.
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{| class="d20" style="text-align: left;" {{#vardefine: odd|0}}
 +
! Source || Bonus per Level || Bonus per Tier || Overall per Tier
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
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| Ability || Complex || +2 || style="text-align: center;" rowspan="4"|10
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| Level || 1 per 2 || +5
 +
|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
 +
| Magic || 1 per 5 || +2 
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|- class="{{Odd-Even}}"
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| Expertise || 1 per 10 || +1 
 +
<!-- repeat as needed -->
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|}
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This coincides prefectly with the recommended defenses per level progression in the DMG, thus ensuring that the game can (theoretically) proceed at a predictable challenge level with little need for modification.

Revision as of 01:57, 20 May 2010

Hello Community! I'm a bit of an eccentric. As a long-time fan of both D&D and Warhammer40k, you'll probably see a bit of mixing of the genres from this humble tech-priest. I'm particularly drawn to the more artificial aspects of the default Dungeons & Dragons universe: undead, constructs, soul-powered doomsday devices. I can be a bit of a perfectionist and get a little wordy, but hopefully we'll still get along. Let's become good friends! Please post any notes you have for me on my talk page rather than here. Thanks in advance for your interest!

Disclaimer: I intend no criticisms to be in any way condescending or offensive. I will try my best to state opinion as opinion and provide hard facts and evidence where approprite, but please forgive me if I slip now and again. I'll do my best to offer the same courtesy and grant the benefit of the doubt to all who oppose me. O.o

Obsession I: Necromancer

I'm gonna check if anyone else has drafted a sensible Necromancer class here on Dungeons. If not, I'm thinking of pursuing that myself. The Beastmaster Ranger is a good base to start from, I think, with the Shaman as an additional point of reference. Another idea I might pursue is an new Warlock pact for servants of Orcus. The pact boon might create a wraith-like hazard at the unfortunate victims position that lasts a round, reminiscent of the effects of Orcus' scepter.

Necromancer (4e Class)

Necromancer

Prospective Necromancer Powers

Symbol of Pain * Implement, Shadow Standard Level ? Daily Attack Range 10; Con vs. Fortitude; whenever the target is struck for untyped damage, it takes an additional 5 damage (save ends). This damage is dealt only once per turn (ie. once on the Ranger's turn, even if he hits twice, once on the Fighter's, once on the target's turn, if it takes an opportunity attack). Special: Damage increases to 10 at 11th level and 15 at 21st level.

Animate Undead Companion (4e Ritual)

The remains stand and stare at you with unnatural cunning, prepared to serve and fight at your direction.

Level: 1 Component Cost: 50gp
Category: Restoration Market Price: None
Time: 4 hours Key Skill: Arcana (no check)
Durration: Instantaneous

This ritual allows you to animate a suitable humanoid corpse as an undead companion. It may only be used by a Necromancer with the Undead Mastry class feature and only if his/her previous companion has been destroyed or dismissed.
   The undead companion may be of any of the allowed categories, at the casters option (and as the corpse allows), and counts as a new creature. The following circumstances may apply:

  • You must use a medium-sized humanoid corpse as an additional component cost. The remains must be sufficiently intact to produce the desired companion (ie. mostly whole for a zombie, at least skeletal for a skeleton, of negotiable quality for a wraith).
  • Your new undead companion suffers the equivalent of a death penalty (see the Raise Dead ritual, PH 311) until you have reached 3 milestones. It takes some time for the animating energies to solidify.
  • The component cost increases to 500gp at paragon tier and 5,000gp at epic tier. You learn new techniques to strengthen your undead companion as your grow in power (it still uses the same statistics).

Obsession II: Zerg

Complete:
Hydralisk (4e Monster)
Zergling (4e Monster)

In Progress:
Baneling
Infestor
Zerg Infestation (4e Disease)
Infested (4e Template)

Obsession III: Balance Analysis

Level Standard Defense Typical Attack Bonus From Ability From Level From Magic Roll to Hit
1st 13 +5 +4 +0 +1 8 or more
2st 14 +6 "" +1 "" 8
3rd 15 "" "" "" "" 9
4th 16 +7 "" +2 "" 9
5th 17 "" "" "" "" 10
6th 18 +9 "" +3 +2 9
7th 19 "" "" "" "" 10
8th 20 +11 +5 +4 "" 9
9th 21 "" "" "" "" 10
10th 22 +12 "" +5 "" 10
11th 23 +13 "" "" +3 10
12th 24 +14 "" +6 "" 10
13th 25 "" "" "" "" 11
14th 26 +16 +6 +7 "" 10
15th 27 "" "" "" "" 11
16th 28 +18 "" +8 +4 10
17th 29 "" "" "" "" 11
18th 30 +19 "" +9 "" 11
19th 31 "" "" "" "" 12
20th 32 +20 "" +10 "" 12
21th 33 +22 +7 "" +5 11
22th 34 +23 "" +11 "" 11
23th 35 "" "" "" "" 12
24th 36 +24 "" +12 "" 12
25th 37 "" "" "" "" 13
26th 38 +26 "" +13 +6 12
27th 39 "" "" "" "" 13
28th 40 +28 +8 +14 "" 12
29th 41 "" "" "" "" 13
30th 42 +29 "" +15 "" 13

Note: the Standard Defense indicates the level apropriate AC minus weapon proficiency bonus (typical +2) and non-AC defenses as suggested in the DMG. I'll look into actual monster statistics as well, to make sure this is practical.

I have included neither class features, nor sundry items' and powers' effects above. I'll try to get to them later on in the article. Feel free to submit anything I've missed as the point of the analysis is definitely accuracy.

As you can see, the necessary roll to hit (given the factors included in this analysis) gradually increases from 1st to 30th levels. This hike in difficulty might be simply expected, otherwise, it might need to be forstalled. This gives us two approaches to game balance: gradual curve and linear progression.

Source Bonus per Level Bonus per Tier Overall per Tier
Ability Complex +1 1/2 8 1/2
Level 1 per 2 +5
Magic 1 per 5 +2

One factor that I didn't include above was the Expertise feats, which are Heroic tier. In my personal opinion, no one should go without them. At the same time, if they're taken right away, it makes hitting your target absurdly easy in the early levels, then things start getting harder from there, which is consistent with the gradual curve approach. If the linear progression is preferred, I suggest that Implement/Weapon Expertise be made a Paragon Feat instead and be rewritten as follows:

Implement/Weapon Expertise You gain a +1 bonus to attacks with the chosen implement or weapon for each 10 levels above 1st. Special: This feat may be taken multiple times, each time applying to a different implement or weapon.

Even with these changes the equation is still slightly non-linear. The irregularity comes from the ability score increases. They make the mistake, if I may be so bold, of clinging half-way to tradition while introducing the new tier system. They should have thrown out the old way and evened it out, if linear progression was their goal (which is an open quesiton).

The solution: grant ability increases every 3rd level into the tier (3rd, 6th, 9th, then 13th, 16th, 19th, etc.) as well as the usual welcoming bonus at 11th and 21st. This way, the (possible) increase to any one ability score will be 4 points per 10 levels (in agregate), for a +2 bonus increase to dependent rolls. The ultimate results are as follows.

Source Bonus per Level Bonus per Tier Overall per Tier
Ability Complex +2 10
Level 1 per 2 +5
Magic 1 per 5 +2
Expertise 1 per 10 +1

This coincides prefectly with the recommended defenses per level progression in the DMG, thus ensuring that the game can (theoretically) proceed at a predictable challenge level with little need for modification.