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Vampiric Weapon was almost exactly the same as Vampiric Touch (much like Vampiric Blade). Energy Ray, was akin to other low level ray spells (and only usable with wildknives). If anything they were more copy and pastes of 5 edition spells, than trend-setting pages. Ghost, when parts of your argument is proven to be flat out false, the rest of it starts to lose its validity.--Franken Kesey 12:28, 12 June 2019 (MDT)
: So... what I'm hearing is, you don't have any sort of grasp on the system whatsoever, not even the barest fundamentals. TK outlined why they were unusable. I mean, look at Energy Ray now. It's... a ray... that does a 30' cone as its range... doesn't have a listed damage base... and the only person who can use it is a class that is nonexistent. Vampiric Blade is even worse. TK outlined two possibilities, but a third one (which I suspect was your intention) is even worse, yet the description doesn't outline how the spell works in the least, as TK pointed out. Seriously, stop strawmanning me and go RTFM because you obviously know nothing about the system, and it's making your articles utter unusable garbage. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] ([[User talk:Ghostwheel|talk]]) 12:42, 12 June 2019 (MDT)
