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Ganteka Future likes this article and rated it 3 of 4.
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| At level 7 (to get Patron Witch 4 spells), fighting 3 HD humanoids in a large group is like, well, they're CR 1 monsters individually (maybe CR 2 if PC classed with good equipment). They aren't a challenge by themselves. They're mooks. As for non-combat challenges, like a merchant or a guard at a gate, or a bar full of people (if you're malicious I guess, unless its a bar of jerks, whatever situation doesn't a big deals), expending a 4th level spell to bypass a social situation is totally a thing. You can do that with like, charms and hypnotism and stabbing or whirlwind attacks whatever. The result here is interesting and while permanent duration things can be scary, they already exist, and at lower level. If anything comes up on this, there will be an update from me.
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Eiji-kun favors this article and rated it 4 of 4!
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| This is a "Save or Lose" against mooks. At 7th level, 3rd level minions pose no threat to you and you start getting Save or Dies anyway. I am fine with this, and it does provide the classic niche of "Witch turns the villagers into pigs".
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balmz dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4.
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| Something that affects that many targets and is save or die regardless of it being a lower hd limit and caster level based seems to me that it should be a level 5 or even 6 spell
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- "One Humanoid Creature of 3 HD or less/Level (each of which must be within 30 ft. of the primary target)" Yep, better version alright.... yep. --Leziad (talk) 21:28, 17 January 2019 (MST)
- Admin Note: Rating has been blocked as it displays a poor understanding of the mechanics of the system it is fitting into. If you still wish to rate the article, read relevant information first. --Ganteka Future (talk) 13:21, 18 January 2019 (MST)
- I will note that deep slumber exist and is a SoD too at a lower level, with a HD limit that is both more and less generous. But that unlike deep slumber, this spell is typelocked. --Leziad (talk) 16:10, 18 January 2019 (MST)
- Do you also dislike fireball? Because at the level you get this, that is a save-or-die against creatures with 3 HD or less. Surgo (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2019 (MST)
